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@WikiEnthusiast1001 The corruption allegations against Khan's wife and the dismissal of the officer who raised them rightfully belong under the accountability section for neutrality reasons. It appears that you do not fully understand Wikipedia's neutrality guidelines. Coverage under the accountability section is not limited to actions where he held others accountable; it can also include instances where he chose not to hold others accountable. You have repeatedly moved this content out of the premiership section using different justifications. The incident occurred during his tenure, and it is irrelevant whether it was reported afterward or while he was still in office. In fact, you have yourself added content reported after his premiership that was still related to his time in office. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 15:16, 1 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You appear to muddle things by elevating those allegations before mentioning his accountability drive. The allegations in question occurred after Khan's ouster, while the accountability section speaks more to the events and policies introduced during his government. Placing such post-ouster allegations before describing the accountability drive section runs counter to the chronological sequence of events and threatens neutrality through poorly defined time periods.
Besides, the only addition that I made regarding post-premiership events was the Rs426 billion retrieved by the Asset Recovery Unit, based on cabinet documents released by his successor's government regarding actions that took place DURING his time in office. Later accusations, particularly those made after he was no longer in power, do NOT belong in a section that assesses his policies as prime minister. Events must remain properly sequenced in time to maintain neutrality. WikiEnthusiast1001 (talk) 02:35, 3 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I’m fine with placing it at the end of the section if that works for you, but the content rightfully belongs in that section. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 10:52, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Requesting the help of Featured Article Help Desk team
The article is not yet ready, as further review continues to reveal issues. The content does not align with the sources, and frequent changes risk immediate rejection. Some contributors seem more focused on promoting the subject rather than promoting the article, you can only do one at a time, you cannot do both. Promoting the person would turn the article into a fan page which is a big no for any nomination. Edit-warring and constant revisions are also major obstacles. While it may be too early to seek assistance, I will review the held desk requirements and request help if appropriate. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 10:44, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I don’t think a response is necessary here—you’ve already pinged several experienced editors, and they can step in if they choose. My stance remains the same: the article has many issues. I initially focused on grammar and spelling as part of the GAN criteria but then discovered problems with source adherence, which I am now addressing. My priority is to ensure the entire article aligns with its sources before moving on to other criteria. Additionally, the article exceeds the recommended length by over 6,000 words, which I also plan to work on. However, ongoing disagreements and disruptions are taking time away from these essential tasks. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 20:37, 12 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@WikiEnthusiast1001 thanks for the ping. I think the cricket career is suitable for GAN and doesn't need anymore focus. I would be interested in a neutral perspective from these editors for the political areas, which might need some improvements. The article is overall good and suitable to nominate for GA, but some areas still violate WP:NPOV policies. For example, the COVID-19 section has dedicated the two starting paragraphs to 2 people's opinions on Khan (only criticism), instead of his actual actions and violates NPOV language. The controversies section itself is a violation of WP:STRUCTURE and WP:CSECTION and may need to be assessed for NPOV. The public image section is mostly good, but does not mention Khan is the most popular politician in Pakistan,[1][2][3][4][5] and instead relies mainly on analysts' opinion pieces. I've filed the first issue at the NPOV noticeboard but haven't yet received a response so these editors may be able to provide a third opinion. Titan2456 (talk) 22:58, 12 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
References
^"Pakistan's Imran Khan defiant even as longer sentence looms". France 24. 2025-01-15. Retrieved 2025-03-12. Imran Khan, Pakistan's most popular politician, is facing a 14-year prison term this month in a case his party says is being used to pressure him into silence.
@WikiEnthusiast1001 You do realise that this article is excessively lengthy, as indicated by the large banner at the top. Given this, what encyclopedic value does text like the following contribute? Khan later told the Financial Times that doctors who examined him found his bone density comparable to that of a man half his age. Laughing, he remarked, "I'm a walking miracle." At this stage, I believe any further expansion of this article, except to uphold the WP:NPOV, should be regarded as WP:DE. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 14:54, 9 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It's relevant to his fall because it mentions that he broke his vertebrae. You've included a lot of unnecessary content on this page. The claim you added to the controversies section about Khan's comments on Pashtuns is a complete stretch by the media, which is why I had to include Khan's quote:
Khan said, 'The idea of human rights is different in every society,' giving the example of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa province, which borders Afghanistan. He further added, 'The city culture is completely different from the culture in rural areas [...] we give stipends to the parents of the girls so that they send them to school. But in districts bordering Afghanistan, if we are not sensitive to the cultural norms, then they won't send them to school despite receiving double the amount. We have to be sensitive about human rights and women's rights.'"
This is NOT controversial at all and was taken completely out of context. The "PM on Education" article is blatantly reaching when it claims, "he has painted the Pakhtun people with the same broad brush, implying that all of them are opposed to women’s rights." The actual quote from Khan says the exact opposite. WikiEnthusiast1001 (talk) 18:22, 9 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The help desk has been inactive for years, and the text you added reflects only Khan's personal claim about his doctor’s remarks, with no independent verification. Furthermore, the doctor's comments and the quote, "Laughing, he remarked, "I’m a walking miracle,"" are not encyclopedic. We cannot include every detail reported in the media. Despite the article already being lengthy, you continue adding more content daily, and there should be a limit. Lastly, please ensure your facts are accurate before making statements. Your accusation that I added Khan's comments about Pashtuns is unfounded, as you didn’t even check who contributed that section before making such claims. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 18:04, 10 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@WikiEnthusiast1001 Paraphrasing doesn't necessarily involve using fewer words, so please take the time to understand what paraphrasing actually entails. We cannot reduce the word count at the cost of distorting the meaning or clarity of the text. The content should be comprehensive and should communicate the full message accurately. Your revision does not meet proper English language standards, as it lacks coherence and disrupts the flow of the paragraph. It leaves the reader confused, questioning what Khan actually denied. In contrast, the previous version modified by Burrobert was clearer and more appropriate, as it accurately conveyed that Khan said Munir's proposed investigation was not the reason for his removal. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 18:02, 12 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@SheriffIsInTown the COVID-19 section lacks any relating picture for 2020, which was the bulk of the pandemic. For visual depiction, an image of Khan addressing and briefing the nation on the COVID crisis and its implications is necessary to meet with GA standards. There is no reason to exclude the image either. Titan2456 (talk) 23:08, 12 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
WP:IMGCONTENT states The purpose of an image is to increase readers' understanding of the article's subject matter. How does this image increase readers' understanding of the article's subject matter? Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 00:08, 13 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
usually by directly depicting people, things, activities, and concepts described in the article. It depicts Khan, the article’s subject, addressing the COVID crisis, which is the section’s subject. It is both subjects matters, the article’s subject talking about the section’s subject are depicted. Also, the subject matter is talking about 2020 but the map is of 2021. Again, what is the reason for exclusion? Titan2456 (talk) 00:23, 13 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
How does this image enhance the reader’s understanding of COVID-19 in Pakistan? During his presidency, President Trump spoke about COVID multiple times—do we have an image of him sitting alone and discussing COVID? The entire world was affected by COVID, so how about bringing three example images on Wikipedia of three different world leaders talking about it? This image has no encyclopaedic value—him sitting there alone. The image is unnecessary. Can you hear him talking about COVID, or can you tell from the image that he is discussing COVID? As for depicting people, he is already shown in the infobox; there is no need to include multiple images of him throughout the article by taking screenshots from YouTube videos. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 00:57, 13 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Just see here, Narendra Modi is sitting alone, can you hear him talking about COVID, or can you tell from the image that he is discussing COVID? And that also is the sole image in the section. Modi's article meets GA standards too. Again, the reason for inclusion is it shows Khan addressing the nation on the COVID crisis, there is no reason for excluding it, especially given identical examples can be seen in GA-class articles. Titan2456 (talk) 03:26, 13 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
level-5 vital article is rated B-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale.
